These are the stories of friends who showed up like beacons.

If Episode 20 was all about the foreign country of grief, these stories will give you the courage and the advice you need to journey to that intimidating place without fear.

Perhaps life has already brought you to that hard place. Perhaps a friend has recently crossed over, and you are wondering how to help her.

Lisa-Jo and Christie have grieved and grieved with others, and they trade stories of what helped and why. Does suffering frighten you? Do you worry you’ll say or do the wrong thing? Then this episode will encourage you and equip you.

Because these stories are not really stories about the storm.

They are stories about the lighthouse that welcomes the storm-tossed home.

Out of the Ordinary

The podcast for anyone who’s ever felt the nagging frustration of wondering if her life is too small, too boring or too ordinary to make a difference. Lisa-Jo Baker and Christie Purifoy, longtime friends and bestselling authors, explore the surprising ways that cultivating ordinary life leads to extraordinary stories.

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Christie Purifoy

Christie Purifoy


A writer and gardener, her favorite ordinary things include strawberry jam, homegrown flowers, and old books with someone else’s notes in them.

Find Christie’s books here.

Lisa-Jo Baker

Lisa-Jo Baker


A reader and writer, her favorite ordinary things include hot tea with milk and sugar, a good movie, her mom’s hand-me-down books and Sunday afternoon naps.

Find Lisa-Jo’s books here.


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